Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/09/2000 01:35 PM Senate CRA

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        SB 213-TRANSPORTATION OF MEMBERS OF AK NATL GUAR                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Number 020                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. BEN GRENN, committee aide to Senator Tim Kelly, sponsor of SB
213, stated SB 213 will permit active members of the Alaska                                                                     
National Guard, the Alaska Naval Militia and the Alaska State                                                                   
Defense Force, when space is available, free transportation on the                                                              
Alaska Marine Highway and the Alaska Railroad.  This free status                                                                
will be limited to traveling to and from drill, training, or other                                                              
official militia activities.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The purpose of SB 213 is to provide a vehicle to get members of our                                                             
volunteer defense forces to and from military training.  In the                                                                 
present climate of downsizing and defense budget cuts, funding for                                                              
transportation of members is constricted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
As the owner and operator of the passenger railroad and marine                                                                  
highway system, the State of Alaska is in the position to offer                                                                 
transportation for these military personnel who are participating                                                               
in training to defend our state and freedoms.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SB 213 would mandate the railroad and ferry system to provide free                                                              
transportation, on a space available basis, for the members of the                                                              
above referenced state defense organizations who are en route to or                                                             
from drill, training, or other official militia activities.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
The bill makes a name change from "Alaska State Militia" to "Alaska                                                             
State Defense Force" in several places in the statute.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SB 213 is a simple, straightforward document to assist our                                                                      
volunteer and citizen soldiers to get to their training.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL TOM WESTALL, Commander 49th Civil Support Brigade, stated                                                               
that he provided the committee with a briefing sheet.  In 1983 the                                                              
Department of Defense (DOD) asked the Adjutant Generals of several                                                              
states to look at the defense forces to see if they could be                                                                    
brought into the total force structure.  The military has been                                                                  
downsizing and the probability of federalizing the National Guard                                                               
has been very likely.  The State Defense Force would be a "stay                                                                 
behind" force and provide military formation for the Governor in                                                                
the event of the federalization of the National Guard.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The defense force provides a force multiplier for the various State                                                             
agencies during times of disasters and other emergencies.  In the                                                               
services, only declared disasters are recorded, but the force                                                                   
participates more than that.  60 soldiers were furnished for Y2K                                                                
search and rescue activities and for public service with the                                                                    
military police.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Currently the force is structured as a cadre unit.  They have                                                                   
brigade headquarters at Ft. Richardson at the armory, a fourth                                                                  
battalion in Anchorage, a second battalion in the Mat-Su valley, a                                                              
first battalion in Juneau, and a third battalion in Fairbanks.  The                                                             
force also has an aviation detachment and medical detachment with                                                               
certified State doctors and registered nurses to take care of all                                                               
medical needs.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
United States Code Title 32, says that each state can have a                                                                    
National Guard and State Defense Force.  The force is also covered                                                              
by National Guard regulations.  AS 26 is the statute the force                                                                  
operates under in the State.  That statute shows the force as a                                                                 
militia; that is part of the language that needs to be changed to                                                               
"State Defense Force."                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 121                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KELLY asked if the language had already been changed and                                                               
the legislation is just conforming the language in the statute, or                                                              
whether SB 213 makes the official change.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL WESTALL stated that SB 213 makes the official change.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKIE asked if the name change was unanimously agreed upon                                                             
amongst all military units in the State or whether there was any                                                                
opposition to changing the language.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL WESTALL said the "State Defense Force" is a federal term                                                                
that Alaska has adopted.  Some states prefer "State Guard."  Alaska                                                             
avoided that term to make a clear distinction between the Alaska                                                                
National Guard and the State Defense Force so it is clear on which                                                              
unit people are addressing.  The characterizations of Defense Force                                                             
are more appealing than a militia group.  They also have their own                                                              
regulations on commissioning, enlisting, personnel action,                                                                      
training, and logistics; so it is a well regulated force.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Number 150                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKIE asked if the Alaska State Defense Force falls under                                                              
the command of the State's top military officials.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL WESTALL stated the Governor is the Commander in Chief of                                                                
all military forces within the State of Alaska.  General Oates is                                                               
the senior military officer for the State.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KELLY asked if there are any full-time employees for the                                                               
State Defense Force.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL WESTALL said not at this time.  The Attorney General                                                                    
decided the provisions to pay the Alaska Defense Force were not                                                                 
clear.  SB 213 would be helpful for the Alaska Defense Force,                                                                   
because the units in Juneau have no economic way to come to                                                                     
Anchorage to train.  It would be good for morale and cross-training                                                             
to let them train with a full brigade.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 185                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADJUTANT GENERAL PHILLIP OATES, Commissioner, Department of                                                                     
Military & Veterans Affairs, stated the Alaska State Defense Force                                                              
is a magnificent organization of volunteers.  These people are not                                                              
paid to train, they train on their own because they are Alaskan                                                                 
patriots.  The only time these individuals are paid is when they                                                                
are called for active state duty.  SB 213 helps these groups come                                                               
together for training and it lets the group know the State                                                                      
appreciates their service.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SB 213 will help the National Guard, because members are in 76                                                                  
different locations around the State.  SB 213 provides                                                                          
transportation on a space available basis, so the impact will be                                                                
minimal.  It will help the force become ready in case an emergency                                                              
arises.  SB 213 has his full support.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Number 209                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KELLY asked if they can be transported by National Guard                                                               
aircraft.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL OATES said yes, most of the travel is done with the Force's                                                             
own resources.  The only time they pay for travel on State                                                                      
resources is for annual training.  This will provide targets of                                                                 
opportunity when it is not essential to train.  Once a year, the                                                                
National Guard has funding to transport for annual training.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KELLY asked if the State Defense Force members need two                                                                
weeks of active duty a year.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL OATES replied no, they do not.  They have a training cycle,                                                             
but it is not a mandated cycle like the National Guard.  They go to                                                             
the field for exercise; it is a different structure because they                                                                
are volunteers.  General Oates introduced Major Mancino and Major                                                               
Young.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Number 238                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. WENDY LINDSKOOG, Director of External Affairs for the Alaska                                                                
Railroad Corporation, stated that the Alaska Railroad supports SB
213, which provides free transportation for the military on a space                                                             
available basis.  This bill provides another way for the Alaska                                                                 
Railroad to support the State's armed forces.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LINDSKOOG cited AS 42.40 and gave some history on the Alaska                                                                
Railroad Corporation.  She said that there would be no financial                                                                
impact to the railroad, if the space available basis policy is not                                                              
violated.  Military members would not take the place of revenue                                                                 
paying customers.  Military travelers have the potential of being                                                               
bumped on different segments of travel with the railroad.  Ms.                                                                  
Lindskoog also gave the committee some background information on                                                                
the Alaska Railroads rates and different routes.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN NORM EDWARDS, Operations Manager of the Alaska Marine                                                                   
Highway System (AMHS), stated the AMHS supports SB 213.  Since                                                                  
revenues are always a concern for the AMHS, one concern is that                                                                 
current travel being paid for by federal funds will now be lost to                                                              
the State of Alaska.  Another concern is that free travel not occur                                                             
on the highest revenue generating runs.  Lastly, AMHS is concerned                                                              
that the new task does not become a burden for the operations of                                                                
AMHS.  AMHS hopes SB 213 will allow operations that are                                                                         
complimentary to what AMHS already performs.  The plans to                                                                      
implement the bill will include: defining space available; union                                                                
contracts go to first come, first serve basis; and providing                                                                    
travel between Alaska ports only.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
AMHS would like to add language to section 2 of SB 213 that reads                                                               
"between Alaska ports only" immediately after "AMHS."  AMHS wanted                                                              
to make everyone aware of those issues, but they do support SB 213                                                              
along with the Alaska State Defense Force.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KELLY said he feels confident the AMHS and the Alaska                                                                  
Railroad will work out the concerns mentioned.  Chairman Kelly                                                                  
asked General Westall if he could think of a reason someone would                                                               
need to go to Seattle.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL WESTALL said no.  Most of the use will be intermittent and                                                              
not on a regular basis.  Occasionally the AMHS would be used to                                                                 
travel to Haines.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKIE asked if there would be any training outside the                                                                 
State of Alaska.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
GENERAL WESTALL said no, there would be no training outside the                                                                 
State.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIRMAN KELLY said the intent is to operate between Alaska ports                                                               
only, instead of making a committee substitute for SB 213.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CAPTAIN EDWARDS stated he understands the intent, and that is how                                                               
it will be interpreted.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MACKIE moved SB 213 out of committee with individual                                                                    
recommendations.  There being no objection, the motion carried.                                                                 

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